Before he got his shot on the first season of The Ultimate Fighter, Forrest Griffin says, "I was making $26,000 a year as a cop. My goal was to make $26,000 a year as a fighter."Griffin has made a whole lot more than that. He earned the six-figure contract that went with becoming the first Ultimate Fighter winner, and he now makes seven figures as the UFC light heavyweight champion. Not bad for a guy who says of his first professional MMA fight, against Dan Severn, "I was supposed to make $250 but I only ended up getting $200."
When I talked to Griffin last week about his upcoming title fight with Rashad Evans at UFC 92, the subject kept coming back to money -- and how surprised Griffin was that he's making a lot of it for doing something he loves. I told Griffin that a boxer whose fights draw hundreds of thousands of pay-per-view customers would be making a lot more money than Griffin made for his fight with Rampage Jackson or will make for his fight with Evans. But Griffin said that doesn't bother him.
"The sport's at a different place," Griffin said of comparing MMA to boxing. "You can think of it that way, or you can think that when I'm working out at Xtreme Couture, there's a roomful of guys who are pretty close in talent to myself who don't have nearly what I have. I'm very fortunate to make what I make."
And if anything, Griffin thinks the stars like himself might make too much money, at least compared to the UFC undercard fighters, who sometimes make just a few thousand bucks a fight.
"I would like to see it be more level," Griffin said. "The top guys make a ton and everyone else doesn't. But they're getting an opportunity."
An opportunity is all Griffin has asked for in the UFC, where he has pulled off upset wins in his last two fights, against Rampage and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. But when I asked him if his status as an underdog in those fights indicates that he wasn't getting enough credit, he was blunt: "No, I think maybe I get too much credit now. And anyway, I don't gamble so I don't really give a s**t about the odds."
Griffin is the favorite against Evans, but he's not so sure that he should be. Griffin says Evans is going to give him a very difficult challenge.
"He's extremely explosive, he's quick, he's got great knockout power in his hands and feet, and he's a real good wrestler," Griffin said of Evans.
And as I talked to Griffin about his own strengths as a fighter, he was more interested in talking about his limitations. I asked him if he thinks he deserves to be considered among the sport's truly elite fighters, like Anderson Silva and Fedor Emelianenko, and he answered, "F**k no. They fight better. They finish fights. They've got a lot broader range of talent and skills."
The fighter who may impress Griffin the most, though, is Wanderlei Silva, who will fight Rampage on the UFC 92 undercard. Griffin expects Silva to win that fight.
"I think Wanderlei is a bad man and Wanderlei will get him," Griffin said. "I'm not great at calling fights but that's my honest opinion."
Griffin wouldn't touch the subject of Rampage's arrest and otherwise bizarre behavior shortly after the two of them fought in July, other than to say, "If it doesn't directly affect me, I don't give a f**k." But he raved about Silva, with whom he sometimes spars.
"He's a good training partner and we're becoming better friends because his English is getting better," Griffin said of Silva. "I've got nothing bad to say about Wanderlei. He will never get tired of punching you. There's just no break in him. I think of myself as someone who's willing to do as much as anyone, but he's the one guy who might do more. That's a bad dude. He's hard to put out. If he was a video game, he'd have no life bar. You've got a life bar that goes down but his life bar doesn't go down. That's why I like watching him fight."
So if Griffin beats Evans and Silva beats Rampage, will we see Griffin vs. Silva some time in 2009?
"It would be great," Griffin said. "If it's for the right money or a belt, I'll fight anyone."
















Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
12-15-2008 @ 7:59AM
Eric said...
Just as Rampage was a tough fight, I think this will be a tough fight that also ends with Forrest winning by decision. I think he will use his reach advantage and the leg kick as he did in the Rampage fight ... the reach advantage should be even more pronounced in this fight.
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12-15-2008 @ 9:03AM
Omar said...
Im betting money on Sugar. I dont bet money often just pick fights but with Forest being the favorite I think there is money to be had. Styles make fights and with the way rampage fights Forest was a bad style match up. Evans with his quickness, wrestling, and athleticism should be able to avoid a lot of Forests best stuff. Evans be unanamous decision
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12-16-2008 @ 10:52AM
Eric said...
Rashad does have the striking power advantage, but I don't think if he can outwork Forrest to win a decision.
Forrest didn't win the two biggest fights of his career (Shogun & Rampage) because of supreme talent, he won with heart and conditioning. If the knockout doesn't come for Rashad, let's see if he can match the heart and conditioning of Forrest Griffin.
12-15-2008 @ 4:19PM
chelbell said...
I'm worried about Forrest this time. I love him; he's probably one of my very top faves but Evans is a hoss and you just can't count it over.
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12-15-2008 @ 6:10PM
ronnie said...
Forrest,You had better finish Rashad..he ain't showed me nothing!! I predict 1st round submission by Forrest!! Get him boy!!
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12-16-2008 @ 8:50AM
jeff sherman said...
It's quite tough to predict anything in the ufc! I think if forrest uses the same fight as usual, I think he will win against Evans! As far as Wandi and Rampage,considering the fact that Rampage was mangled in their first 2 fights, Silva will likely win by tko even though the rules are a little different in the ufc! would make for a good fight between forrest and wandi!!
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12-16-2008 @ 1:54PM
Frederick said...
Is this the same cop who once said after a win that it felt better then any drug he had ever tried lol
Guess Forest has a litle Vic mackey in him
I think Evans is going to win that fight but I do see forest winning by decision maybe
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12-16-2008 @ 6:58PM
Budro poyner said...
Rashad Evans Will Demolish Forest...I Predict A K O !!
Michigan wrestlers ROCK ..Kick his azz Rashad Like I Know You Can !!
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12-22-2008 @ 1:33PM
Brye said...
PLEASE, FORREST HAS WAY MORE EXPERIENCE. AND HE'S A SMART FIGHTER . HES GOT THIS...... RASHADS LAME
12-17-2008 @ 7:52AM
angel11 said...
I hate Rashad with a passion just like I hate any michigan state wrestlers. Hear it from a true ufc fan forrest will win and so will wandi Budro Poyner your a dumbass!
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12-17-2008 @ 3:29PM
Brye said...
Forrest gots this, he's a smart fighter he's grown so much he knows how to win.
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12-17-2008 @ 5:48PM
cold said...
Rashad will win this fight easy. Forest will try to kick him from a mile away Rashad by KO or decision from ground and pound. People picking Forest are stupid.
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12-17-2008 @ 10:04PM
Jemarcus said...
Forrest Was lucky to get by Rampage, and after watching that fight five times, I am convinced that Rampage got robbed. Evans will dismantle Forrest as he is too quick, and learned from the mistakes that Rampage made. Rampage will beat Silva. In the first two fights against silva, Rampage was clearly beating him, but got careless. He was young. Rampage is more mature now, has better people around him, and will not take unnecessary chances like he did in the first two fights. Rampage by decison and Evans by easy decision over Forrest.
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12-18-2008 @ 7:26AM
Eric said...
So I guess Forrest was lucky for a whole 25 minutes? Forrest won a close, but unanimous, decision ... get over it!
12-18-2008 @ 3:55PM
MMAFAN1982 said...
I think forest will win he has just came off 2 huge back to back wins and rashad hasn't really fought anybody except for chuck and who hasnt beat chuck lately I think forest will win and then it will be forest against wanderlei silva and wanderlei silva will crush forest
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12-18-2008 @ 11:06PM
Fernandez said...
Rashad Evans will bring the sweetness guaranteed. I dig Forrest because hes got big heart, but Rashad is too fast, too strong too experienced.People are picking Forrest because they like his heart.They dont recognize true talent, pure power, heart, and desire, like my man Rashad.Sorry Forrest lovers.
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12-19-2008 @ 1:22PM
Rod1 said...
I called the Rashad vs Chuck fight...I said Rashad by brutal second round KO...and it happened...and I'm gonna say it again...Rashad Evans by first of second round Brutal KO of Forrest Griffin...People seem to forget on thing...Rashad is a very explosvie wrestler and his weapon is to take you down...If Griffin comes out and tries to take his power away by throwing Leg kicks...Evans will take him down and knock him out...the same way that Keith Jardine did...
People don't give Evans any credit...but to me...NO ONE at 205 can beat Rashad...Not even Wand...Evans by brutal KO in first or second round.
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12-19-2008 @ 1:23PM
Rod1 said...
Eric...Rashad's not going to have to outwork him...All Evans has to do is hit him clean...and Evans has the fastest hands and feet in MMA at that weight...Rashad is gonna be too fast and too strong for Forrest...
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12-21-2008 @ 3:45AM
hits said...
first off Rashad doesn't have the fastest hands at that weight, goes
Anderson Silva
Wandy
Rampage
Then doesn't have the fastest legs eaither, come on get your head out of the gutter, he beat a couple of okay fighters, and should of lost to tito, but thats the UFC, come on you seirously think rashad will win, pass me what your on
12-22-2008 @ 5:16PM
Eric said...
I agree that Rashad could win by KO, but I don't think it is likely. If you look at the fight with Chuck ... Chuck basically stepped right in as if he didn't think Rashad could punch and he got creamed. Forrest knows Rashad can punch, and he won't stick his chin out and pose for a big right! He will stay busy and fight at range.
As for the fast feet comment ... do you think 5'8" Sean Salmon is on the level of Forrest Griffin?