Dan Henderson: Brock Lesnar Will Be Unstoppable, Didn't Earn Title Shot

Mir made Lesnar tap plain and simple The ref had to stop the fight. If you knew anything about MMA you would know that.

i know the minute mir turned his head mazzagatti stood them up; thats very unusual. It wasn't like Lesnar was aiming for the back of mir's head, mir turned his head. mazzagatti should never have been allowed to ref that fight - 1 he's a life long family friend - 2 hes no a very good ref in the best of times.
mir would never have gotten that free leg if there was a netural ref. that had allowed them to fight.
you mean you didn't pick up on any that gunner the mma expert?

Your conspiracy theories aside Lesnar made a rookie mistake (thought he was in fake fighting again) and got submitted. I thought the standup for blows to the back of the head was deserved but the point deduction probably wasn't. He hit him in the back of the head like 4-5 times in a row. Whats the ref supposed to do in that situation?

Let's also be honest here that Mir was essentially a can at the time thrown at Brock to be an easy win and give Lestard credibility. Since then, Mir has improved tremendously and his boxing against Big Nog was the best I'd ever seen out of him during his career. Lesnar better be ready for that and the ground game.

I just don't see Lesnar winning this fight. I haven't been impressed with any of his fights as he really hasn't done anything to this point. He beat Herring who is not an elite level fighter anymore and beat Couture after a long layoff and about a 45 lb weight advantage. On top of that Lesnar looked gassed in that fight and couldn't keep Couture on the ground or hold a dominant body clinch position. Basically, Lesnar looked like the guy fighting at 230 lbs.

I don't think Lesnar respects Mir's ability as a fighter and I think he is in for a rude introduction in his first title defense.

I saw the Henderson interview and I agree with every point he made. At this point Lesnar isn't unstopable although one day he could be and that he didn't earn his title shot in the ring. It was about PPV buys.

Also, you are making excuses for Lesnar. Blaming the ref that he lost instead of just saying Mir was the better man. Even if you disagree with the standup (I didn't) Lesnar still had him in a pretty dominant position and made an amateur mistake and got submitted inb a few seconds. Mir has better boxing now then he did then. It won't be so one sided in the standup.

Alistair i disagree. Mir has never been a push over. He is one of the top HWs, as gifted as any. Nogeria has always been an easy target on the standup. The guy has always been willing to take a beating just to get the fight to the ground. No stoke of genius on Mir's part to keep the fight off the ground, thats a given. Actually, i thought Nogeria was looking spent in the sylvia fight, he's had a lot of milage and it was showing then.
As to lesnar, its a common mistake for a wrestler to give up the neck or a leg, he woln't make that mistake twice. Lesnar is an absolute beast. UFC fans seem to have little appreciation for wrestling, but i promise you it takes a lot of conditioning and skill to dominate someone on the ground. Heath Herring has some of the best sweeps/escapes in the HW division. Lesnar mounted him and herring couldn't get away. Lesnar took Mir down like knocking an old lady over, I don't see Mir stopping Lesnar's takedown. Lesnar also knocked Mir down with a not so great punch as i remember, i don't think mir is going to want to trade inside much.
Wrestling is the best foundation for MMA. Theres no one i see on Lesnar's level.
As for Mazzagatti, i think you'll find he owns karate schools along with Mir's Dad, and the two have know each other for a long time. H'e probably known Frank his whole life. It's no question, Mazzagatti should not have been allowed to ref that fight, even if you overlook what a poor ref he is.
Mir was the one turning his head, a warning is the typical response from an non biased, competant ref. Mazzagatti may have been within the rules, but you never see it done, he saved mir, and if Lesnar's camp has any sense they'll make sure Mazzagatti is no where near the octagon.
Oh, Randy's a stud. the guy's still capable of taking out any top ten HW in the world, doesnt mean i'd bet on him for all of the top ten, but you cant count him out.

you hit it Paul, have you ever seen anyone shoot on Mir, take him down with unbelievable speed, and dominate him? no one but Lesnar. Lesnar is a beast.

enlighten this moron, who have you ever seen shoot on mir, better yet, who's ever taken mir down, and lesnar did it with ease. he also knocked mir down with a punch, just like he did with herring.
you guys need to give credit where due, 1- randy did better than anyone keeping lesnar standing, 2 - lesnar is the real deal, he's a beast on the mat and will dominate mir.

Mazzagatti is a lifelong family friend of the mirs, he never should have been the ref. if mazzagatti hadnt stood them up for mir turning his head on a punch and then calling lesnar for a foul, miur would have been ko'd. mir was rattled after the fight.

Go rewatch that fight again. I agree there probably shouldn't have been a deduction without a warning but Lestard hit Mir in the back of the head like 5 times in a row. Whats the ref supposed to do?