Dana White: Who the F--- Is Fedor? If He Signs With UFC He'll Fight the Best

Barnett second best??????? Not even close..

Then who is?
I mean usually when someone disagrees that way they tell who they think is.
But if you were going to say Brock Lesnar I can understand you not wanting to share.

Boring fighters?

Sure...if you discount stuff like, say, Griffin vs. Rampage, Evans vs Machida, Quarry vs. Maia, Evans vs. Liddell, Leben vs. Silva, Koscheck vs. pretty much everyone, Serra vs. GSP, Florian vs. pretty much everyone, Sanchez vs. Guida, Sanchez vs. Fitch, Stevenson vs. Penn, Bisping vs. McCarthy, Jardine vs. Alexander, Saunders vs. Wolff...

In case you didn't get my point - win or lose, a lot of TUF alumni have been part of some very memorable fights. It may take a year or so for the latest crop to get to that level (if they last that long), but I can't complain about what I've seen so far.

I can't wait until I'm driving my hover car and I look back at my old car and say man I can't believe that old POS used to need a road to drive on. Everything is constantly evolving. I thought that was common sense. By your logic wouldn't that happen in every weight class??

psychlonik, I really couldn't disagree with you more on your reasoning.

Future HW's will come and some will be beyond belief in talent, but the sport and martial arts as a whole only has so far it can go before you're trying to re-invent the wheel.

Let's face it, every technique we watch has actually been around for thousands of years.

These techniques go back as far as ancient Greece with their Pankration tournaments that were very similar to what we watch today, except more people died then.

I'll go out on a limb and say that there's no doubt in my mind that there were far better fighters back in ancient times than there are today, in those days it was life and death. The gladiators of Rome took it to the next level as weapons were part of the sport, combat technique was there for everyone to see. I can probably write several pages on this, but I'll spare you.

Let me not get too carried away here, but let's look at boxing. Boxing had it's greatest hey day in the 70's with many excellent era's starting back in the 20's. Since the 70's there have been many excellent top rate fighters, but few who could stand up with the guys of that era. If we were to follow your reasoning on this, fighters should just get better and better, that's not reality here.

In short we will marvel at how good Fedor was for the next 100 years. Take a good look at what this guy does, his work speaks for itself.

Fedor is and will be a legend whether he fights in the UFC or not. He really has nothing to prove, he was the best in the worlds top organization and I hope he goes to the UFC, but as I said it doesn't change a thing.

Dana White is just acting like the snake oil salesman he naturally is.

This is a bit of a reach here...its not quite the same as saying Royce Gracie was one dimensional, because truth be told, in a way? he was. But he Brought an element to the game, and that is why hes a Hall of Fame fighter. A building block from ten fifteen years ago isnt quite the same as a more rounded fighter thanks to that advance in experience and developing the craft. Fedor brings far more to the fight game than any of the early fighters, but he also demonstrates along with other fighters like Mir, or GSP, that there really isnt a lot more that can be done now, its more a matter of applying Bruce Lees philosophy, you take what works for you from each martial art, and add it to your game. Fedor is the culmination of various skills witnessed during the birth of MMA being merged, along with many of todays fighters.

I mean unless your idea of advancing would be to fight in an anti gravity chamber with booster suits...

@Niv:

Good call on the comparison to ancient times. Just because combat has evolved, it does not mean we don't read about the Spartan army at Thermopylae and marvel at the technique, discipline and courage it displayed against an overwhelming invasion force.

Likewise, MMA can be compared to baseball and its continuity of stats -- as long as the rules remain generally the same, the only thing that could drastically change the sport is medical technology and more substances that could give athletes greater advantages.

I can't understand how some people could say, "Fedor needs to prove himself in the UFC" unless they're just haters. The man is 8-0 against UFC champions and will almost definitely improve to 9-0 against them in August when he faces Barnett. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's another fighter -- active or retired -- who has that record against the UFC's best. It's likely that, if Fedor had been fighting in the UFC with its restrictive twice-a-year per-fighter schedule, he would not have had as many opportunities to beat UFC champions as he has had in Pride and Affliction.

And if he goes to the UFC, and he beats Lesner and Mir, who else is left for him to fight? Do people want to see him beat Noguiera and Herring again?

I'm not saying he shouldn't go -- I would love to see a Fedor-Lesnar match-up -- but please let's not speak in absolutes about what Fedor "needs" to do in order to "prove himself," or pretend the UFC would somehow provide a higher level of competition when Fedor has mowed through their best heavyweights. Can't we just be fans who all agree that we want to see him fight the best of the best, regardless of organization or affiliation?

that would be your friends that dont know who fedor is, all mine do.

Let me just sum it up for you: YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR FREAKING MIND ABOUT FEDOR! ENOUGH SAID!

you mean randleman, coleman, lindlind just arent good enough wrestlers? or maybe you meant nogeria's (when he was a lot fresher) jj isnt good enough? theres a bunch of other top guys he's either subbed or ko'd. just face it, the baddest man in the world is a pudge from russia.

thats funny dully, my buds even bought me a t shirt for christmas that reads "no friends".
Right - Fedor does sambo.